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scumbuzzard

Member Since:
2006-02-28

Okay, this testimony will probably upset a few people, and I do apoligize if it hurts anyone here. My personal opinion is that a person in America is homeless only if they choose to be. The problem with these people already is people handing out to them. If people would stop giving them money and food, they would eventually have to get off their lazy chops and go out and support themselves, just like the average American. If they didn't, I guess they either starve or freeze to death. Either way, problem solved. They are a burden to society. They complain that life has been cruel to them. Heck, I guess I could complain that I have to work 8-12 hours a day. Does anyone think for a split second that someone on the streets actually gives a rat's behind about me and my family? Believe me, I've seen my share of hard times. Life is full hardships and pressures, but that doesn't mean that you have to resort to becoming a bum. With that in mind, everyone have a blessed day!

Posted: 2006-02-28 07:40:00
PBJ THE WAY

Member Since:
2006-02-27

HOW CAN YOU TELL EVERYONE TO HAVE A BLESSED DAY?YOUR THOUGHTS ARE EXACTLY WHY OUR WORLD IS SO BAD.IF THING S DONT CHANGE WHAT KIND OF WORLD WILL YOUR KIDS LIVE IN.IF YOU NEED HELP SOME DAY I HOPE SOMEONE LIFTS A HAND SO YOU MAY SEE A CHANGE. YOU HAVE TO GO SEE ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE STREET ARE NOT JUST LAZY,SOME HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS,DRUG HABITS,SOME ARE JUST TEMPERARY. I HELPED A KID THIS LAST SUMMER WHO JUST MISSED HIS BUS,HAD TO WAIT A WEEK FOR ANOTHER.WITH NO PLACE TO STAY HE LIVED UNDER THE OVERPASS,HE RAN OUT OF MONEY.JUST WANTED TO GO HOME.HOPE THIS WASNT YOUR KID.TRY LOVE ITS MUCH MORE REWARDING.

Posted: 2006-02-28 08:02:00
deagon

Member Since:
2006-02-08

There is a lot of reasons why a person is homeless! It's not always because of something they did. I know a lady who left a husband that was beating her...She became homeless, fell through the cracks. These people need help and if you say they are lazy or what ever you do not understand the teaching of our Lord and you have a cold heart.

Posted: 2006-03-02 11:04:00
CalgaryMom

Member Since:
2006-03-04

Having worked at the women's floor in a homeless shelter for 6 months I saw a wide range of women and hear a wide range of reasons / explanations for how they ended up homeless.

At the one end was the couple of women who were working the system and cycling between the 3 shelters we have in my city.

Then there was:

The prostitutes who had enough and were trying to get off the streets but after years of selling themselves they did not know how to work legit jobs but employers wanted to know where they had been.

There were women from abusive relationships who had been so beat down in their self-esteem that they did not have the courage to try - because they had been told for years they were worthless.

There were women who had various injuries or illnesses that were taking months / years to recover from (if they would ever recover) and they did not have the savings or family / friend support to be able to keep their homes / apartments.

There were the mentally ill women who were not in touch with reality and could have never kept a job.

So it is high and mighty to say, GO GET A JOB but reality is a different story.

He says he would work long hours if he needed to. What would he do if he was injured or got cancer and could not work? What if his parents or spouse had so mistreated him that he thought he was useless and worthless? What if he had a mental illness that he couldn't get a handle on controlling? The "What ifs" could go on and on. So it is "nice" to make sweeping statements but reality is not as simple and easy as he wants to believe.

S - CalgaryMom



Posted: 2006-03-04 21:14:00
nicolefreckles

Member Since:
2006-02-24

To Scumbuzzard:

Lazy? A burden? With all due respect, have you ever been homeless? My guess is no. Until you have walked in someone elses shoes, how can you sit back and say such a thing?

The reason this book was able to be made possible was because Mike and Sam obeyed God. They wanted to see first hand at what it was to be homeless; not to get a pat on the back and a, "hey good job guys" to people who read Under the Overpass, but because they were called by God.

Who are you to pass such judgement? And how can you look at yourself in the mirror or even sleep at night? That's a horrible thing to say.

I will pray for you tonight before I go to sleep. I hope God sets you back in the right direction. Maybe He will teach you the hard way. Maybe a setback; something you didn't plan for? That's how I felt when I was homeless. I was cold and dirty and hungry, but did I get angry with God? No! Did I complain? Yeah, a little bit, but who wouldn't? Did I stop trusting Christ to lead me? Haha, no way! Not a chance.

I've been through too much and seen too much to give up now. And I know that God won't give up on me, even if I was a lazy bum!!!





~Nicole

Posted: 2006-03-10 17:48:00
Do_It_for_Jesus

Member Since:
2005-11-15

Scumbuzz - I am not replying to argue with your opinion, flame you, or call you names. I am replying to state some facts and make a challenge to you. I have been doing volunteer work with the homeless for a year now. I go out to meet them in the streets and give them supplies offered by the relief organization I work for to get them through the night in the winter time. I talk to them and I have gotten to know their situations. I can tell you without a doubt in my mind that these people do not chose this lifestyle. Many have fallen into a vicious cycle with no way out. Here are the reasons that many have become homeless: Substance abuse that lead to physical addictions, flight from abusive homes, flight from domestic violence, severe depression, mental disabilities such as retardation, paranoia & schitzophrenia; physical disabilities, physical disfigurement, personality disorders, prision releases, long term unemployment that lead to financial crisis, short term financial hardships, evictions, abandonment by caretaker, death of a caretaker, under employment, divorce, restraining orders, etc, etc. Of the population I have come into contact with (over a hundred at least) I would say that maybe only 1 percent are individuals that I thought are chosing homelessness. But those few are self-sufficient and work at odd jobs when they can find work. For those of you who shout "Get a job!" at a homeless person, consider hiring them at your place of business. Instead of you expecting someone else to provide the job for them, you do it. But don't be too hard on them if they can't shower each day before work or own a change of clothes. Don't deny them employment because they don't have proper ID, an address, prior job references, job skills, or a telephone number. Be forgiving if they get sick on the job trying to go cold turkey with their addictions so they can work for you.
My challenge to you is to do volunteer work with the homeless for 6 months, get to know them -who they really are and what are their circumstances and how they are forced to live daily. Then respond to your original posting and let us all know about what you pesonally learned about homeless people after you made face to face contact with them. By the way, check into your own financial situation. How long could you go financially without a job if you lost yours or could not be re-employed - say you had a car accident that gave you a severe head injury? I know a homeless couple that this happened to. She cares for her disabled husband on the street now. I wonder if she thinks her husband is a bum?

Grace and Peace - I pray for you that the Lord will change your heart

Posted: 2006-03-13 22:26:00
loves2_draw

Member Since:
2006-04-17

You know, if you think about it wasn't Jesus kind of a homeless person? I may be wrong about that but were supposed to treat those who are in need as if they were Jesus. He even said "What you have done for the least of these you have also done for me." So I really think you should rethink your position on things.

Posted: 2006-04-21 13:45:00
whiperwhill

Member Since:
2006-04-23

I am a RN and I have worked with the homeless for 7 years. You are so wrong about you perception of the homeless. Please you owe it to yourself to become educated.. People who are homeless can be severely mentally ill. They can be very ill... It is true that so many people are just one pay check from being homeless and that one pay check could just be a 6 dollar a hour paycheck..... Please Please Please don't rob yourself of the truth. There are not plentifull jobs for people in shelters most of my patients work tempory jobs trying to get back their lives they have no phones for employers to call them and no transpertation.... You may say that is there own fault but have you never made a mistake. Some of my clients storys would break your heart.. One of my clients woke as a small child to his father trying to slit his mother throat and as a 7 year old he jumped onto his father back to try and stop him and his father threw him against the wall... I have had a client who was forced by his father to have sex with his stepmother. After months with this patient he told me this and he can never forgive himself for not saving his mom. The only reason I can think of that you have overcome all your pain and hardships is so you can give encouragment to someone else facing simular pain. I tell people all the time if you can overcome you can help other people People won't listen to other people who haven't really lived suffering and overcoming it. I pray that you can let your guard down enough to put yourselg in other peoples place and think what if that were me. There is a song I think says it all That says you should thank god you don't have to walk a mile in their shoes then you would really know what it is to have to loose. Terri

Posted: 2006-04-23 11:20:00
shellyb282

Member Since:
2006-06-01

What an interesting topic. Don't we all know people who believe that the homeless are there because they want to be? Doesn't really matter if you ask me....Jesus didn't tell us to love people who were super responsible and held 8-12 hour a day jobs. He didn't tell us not to either. But he did tell us to love our brother, to care for the orphan and widow, and to extend a cold cup of water in his name (the whole least of these thing...ya know.)

I guess my simple response to all of these posts is that I'm thankful that God hasn't called us to be the judge...it's not our job to decide why someone is homeless, or sinful, or any other thing. Were just called to love, right?

And just for the record, were supposed to love people even when their opinions differ from ours....when we call people names, or yell at them for being judgemental, aren't we being judgemental ourselves? I could be wrong, but that's sort of where I've come to in life...

Posted: 2006-06-01 12:49:00
puddinboy

Member Since:
2006-04-05

I agree with Shelly. The ultimate calling is To Love our brother as ourselves.

Posted: 2006-06-09 14:30:00
kelckinz

Member Since:
2006-06-11

I'm not replying to bash you either, scumbuzzard, but do you pay attention in church? We are made in the image of God, and even though it's obvious we are not as merciful, powerful, and forgiving as He, we sure need to strive to be like Him.
I am very elated that man doesn't have control over the world; otherwise we would be in even more trouble than we are now. Think about it. We may be good Christians. We may lead a pretty normal life, or we may be drug addicts living on the streets. I know plenty of people who are sitting in their nice air-conditioned homes with a TV and bed to sleep in who are on their way to hell. On the other hand, plenty of homeless people are sleeping under that overpass. Even though they are in discomfort, they have the assurance many don't. Like the beggar who allowed the dogs to lick his sores, they soon will receive their reward in heaven.
I see what point you are trying to make, but I sure do hope it is never lived out.

Posted: 2006-06-11 20:42:00
kelckinz

Member Since:
2006-06-11

I'm not replying to bash you either, scumbuzzard, but do you pay attention in church? We are made in the image of God, and even though it's obvious we are not as merciful, powerful, and forgiving as He, we sure need to strive to be like Him.
I am very elated that man doesn't have control over the world; otherwise we would be in even more trouble than we are now. Think about it. We may be good Christians. We may lead a pretty normal life, or we may be drug addicts living on the streets. I know plenty of people who are sitting in their nice air-conditioned homes with a TV and bed to sleep in who are on their way to hell. On the other hand, plenty of homeless people are sleeping under that overpass. Even though they are in discomfort, they have the assurance many don't. They have their salvation, and like the beggar who allowed the dog to lick his sores, they will soon have their reward in heaven.
I see what point you are trying to make, but I sure do hope it is never lived out.

Posted: 2006-06-11 20:49:00
JimThix10

Member Since:
2006-09-15

Regardless of why or how theyre homeless, we are called to love them. Who are we to judge their situation? Leave the judging to the pharisees and start to love like Christ.

Posted: 2006-09-15 09:00:00
joyous153

Member Since:
2006-04-19

You nailed it, Jim. Love like Christ. If you don't know how, ask Him to show you. Better yet, ask Him to love others through you. Be careful, though, that is a dangerous prayer, but ultimately one of the most rewarding prayers I've ever prayed. The results still knock my socks off regularly :)

Leslie

Posted: 2006-09-16 15:22:00
 




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